Manhunt 2 denied UK release!

[Snaggletooth]

Cant say I was fussed about the game i the first place, especially after playing the first title which was to be honest a rather rubbish game.

I just dont see why these stiffs in suits get to make the judgment that I as a responcible adult am not able to play any game due to the fact they deemed it inapropriate.

And lets be hosnest about it, the game was really only banned after the the uproar after the first games ban, but what bugs me with that whole situation was that it was falsely reported in the first place.

The Child who was murdered had a copy of Manhunt who was also underage, the murderer did not play this game. and why the hell was an underage person playing the title in the first place, but as usual facts are twisted to suit the masses. And provide a source of blame for those who can take responcibility for their own incompitence.

but what bugs me the most is there is no easy place in situations like this for people who now want the game to be released to campaighn for it, and give us chance to prove that the disicions made in banning the game are invalid and week. Ho Hum. Thats what we get for living in a Nanny state I suppose.

[Somerset Bumpkin]

Fook me it's all kicking off in 'ere innit!


Finish Him

[rumblecat]

Manhunt 2, by all accounts, definitely has a context for it's violence. But I think the actual content of the game is near irrelevant. What is relevant is that the BBFC are saying they are doing this to protect adults.

You are over eighteen. You may be over thirty. You might have kids, run your own business, whatever. Doesn't matter. And the argument that we have to default and protect the lowest common demoninator is a very slippery slope.

The point is someone has decided This game is not for you.

Someone has stated- with no evidence to back up their claims- that this game will be harmful for adults to play. This isn't a scientific claim. This isn't based upon a true 'fact'. This is a moral judgement that someone is making for you. And, frankly, if that doesn't put the shits up you, if you blindly accept someone else's decision about what art is good for you, about what you can see, read, or play- then, fine. I prefer to make my own decisions.

Ask yourself this though- what makes the BBFC right? Why should you allow someone to make you conform to their moral standards? And above all, where is their evidence, where is the actual substance to their claims about the supposed harm this computer game will cause adults?

Still, like Sasquatch says, good debate.

[FatTrucker]

I just dont see why these stiffs in suits get to make the judgment that I as a responcible adult am not able to play any game due to the fact they deemed it inapropriate.

Thats something of a misrepresentation. They have a criteria on which any submitted content is judged. Manhunt didn't fulfill certain elements and so was denied classification. Its the same criteria thats applied to every other game thats submitted, and all of them bar this one were granted classification so all the people going mental about censorship of the content are slightly misled.
Its not the content itself that was the issue but the manner in which that content was portrayed and the context (or lack of in this case) within which it was presented.
A lack of other game or narrative elements justifying the actions within the game mean that there is no reason for the graphic depictions of violence beyond the depiction of those acts as a means of gratification in and of themselves.

I think they are spot on.

[DifferentClass]

Why all the talk about Manhunt 2 not having any plot because I think it will have as much as a plot as any second rate slasher movie.

[rumblecat]

And what's wrong with violence for violence's sake? We don't need a context. because, once again, adult blah blah blah, don't need someone deciding for me, blah blah.

[DifferentClass]

They can make up all the excuses they want for banning the game.
It just seems to me thats its a sort of delayed knee-jerk reation to the tragic events that surrounded the last Manhunt.

[the_13est]

I can understand the reasonings for a potential banning. But to actually go along with it and completely refuse it any retail what-so-everis really tedious.
Thanks to the knobs at the press, the media has exploded into a frenzy and people that have no lives spend their hours complaining and whinging about things that don't need to have a fuss about them.

I was thoroughly anticipating Manhunt 2 and to realise i'm going to have to import it and play it on my Wii rather than my PS2 extremely pisses me off. Sorry for the language, im just highly annoyed.

DAMN THE RATINGS BOARD ! >:/

[Richman]

Are there any legal ramifications of importing a banned game?

[Craymen Edge]

Why all the talk about Manhunt 2 not having any plot because I think it will have as much as a plot as any second rate slasher movie.

If so, then it's Rockstar's fault for not making this abundantly obvious in the materials they submitted to the BBFC.

*stirs the pot*

[The Inquisitor]

As I posted somewhere else, Rockstar had it coming anyway. If they were a bit more transparent with their reasons for these games and willing to engage in debate, maybe people would take their efforts with a bit more credibility.

[MikeHaggar]

No political influence over Manhunt ban, states BBFC:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=25920

Wii-mote Control Prompts Demand That Manhunt 2 Be Adults-Only in North America:
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/19/wii- ... ults-only/


And from Rockstar:
http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=166251

"We are disappointed with the recent decision by the British Board of Film Classification to refuse classification of Manhunt 2. While we respect the authority of the classification board and will abide by the rules, we emphatically disagree with this particular decision.

"Manhunt 2 is an entertainment experience for fans of psychological thrillers and horror. The subject matter of this game is in line with other mainstream entertainment choices for adult consumers.

"We respect those who have different opinions about the horror genre and video games as a whole, but we hope they will also consider the opinions of the adult gamers for whom this product is intended. We believe all products should be rated to allow the public to make informed choices about the media and art they wish to consume. The stories in modern video games are as diverse as the stories in books, film and television. The adult consumers who would play this game fully understand that it is fictional interactive entertainment and nothing more."

[dj trooper]

BASTARDS! Hopefully a free loader will be out pretty soon....

[MikeHaggar]

As long as it's released elsewere in Europe one shouldn't need a Freeloader.

[Games!!!]

BASTARDS! Hopefully a free loader will be out pretty soon....

Just buy it from the continent, still PAL.
Depends weather the UK and Ireland banning it will spark a chain reaction.
This game will be banned in Germany and Australia without a doubt.

Can the EU ban the game in the rest of the member states that have not banned it?.