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Post by One-armed dwarf » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:03 am

All the resignations are really disgraceful. The future of Britain isn't a game of hot potato. The referendum is only the start and it isn't even legally binding, so if that equates to this Farage cunt realising his political ambition then clearly he isn't very ambitious. Negotiating the terms of that exit is where the real battle begins.

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Post by shinymcshine » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:23 am

Yes - its like they've given the public a vote, then decided the public were "wrong" so now don't want to be accountable for anything.

Can't believe that the Tories think putting a "remain" supporter in charge is in anyway an acceptable position. Why don't they actually think about the majority of the public they represented who voted "leave" and go with what they wanted. I'd like to put Gove, Johnson & Farage in positions of power and make them accountable for delivering their "Brexit" promises.

Whilst I voted "remain" I also think that in a democratic system they shouldn't now be allowed just fudge around because the result wasn't what they (i.e. the majority of MPs) wanted.

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Post by sleepery jeem » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:11 pm

:shock: surprised to see Boris as foreign minister, still the Chinese like him so that might be useful I suppose.


May seems to have gotton off to an ok start with Davis as Brexit minister as he has form with trade negotiations in the EU, though i know little of Hammond though.
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Post by shinymcshine » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:47 pm

sleepery jeem wrote::shock: surprised to see Boris as foreign minister, still the Chinese like him so that might be useful I suppose.


May seems to have gotton off to an ok start with Davis as Brexit minister as he has form with trade negotiations in the EU, though i know little of Hammond though.
It sort of okay to see Johnson, Fox and Davies being given key international roles as "leave" campaigners ... off you go boys sort this sh*t out now

Hammond seemed pretty decent in his Defence & FO roles.

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Post by One-armed dwarf » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:46 am

The decision by the EC that Apple should pay the Irish government 11 billion pounds/13 billion euro creates a scary kind of precedent for future investment in the country. Just sends a message that whatever tax agreements you make with Ireland might as well be signed on the back of a beermat.

Ireland's tech sector has benefited a lot from its permissive taxation of multinationals.

edit: Maybe 'permissive' is stretching it a bit, but long term it's not a good look for Ireland
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Post by shinymcshine » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:19 pm

Quick get Phillip Hammond on the phone and tell him to offer Apple tax breaks in Brexit UK !

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Post by merman » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:08 pm

shinymcshine wrote:Quick get Phillip Hammond on the phone and tell him to offer Apple tax breaks in Brexit UK !
Don't worry, that's what Brexit Britain will become - a shabby tax haven sitting off the shores of Europe.

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Post by Bilge Rat » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:57 pm

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shinymcshine wrote:Quick get Phillip Hammond on the phone and tell him to offer Apple tax breaks in Brexit UK !
Don't worry, that's what Brexit Britain will become - a shabby tax haven sitting off the shores of Europe.
Seems a bit optimistic that we could upgrade ourselves to 'shabby' :|

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Post by One-armed dwarf » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:02 am

Sounding like Feb/March for triggering of article 50, though comments from George Osbourne says late 2017 is the earliest possible.

Hope that GBP doesn't fall below parity with Euro.

Situation looks so bleak. Hard Brexit: everything is fucked, financial passports gone. Lost jobs everywhere. Soft Brexit: pointless.

Maybe there's a scrambled or poached Brexit that will make everyone happy.
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Post by sleepery jeem » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:18 pm

Looks like your right, march at the latest was announced today.

And yes I know that our economy is gonna suffer, but I was pleased that May announced the implementation of British rule of law.

Petty of me I know but I want my vote to count, to shape my country, to shape the laws I live under.


:| it may well cost me my job at some point (my boss was warned by 3 different suppliers to expect 10-20% cost increases in the next year)
but asked again I would still vote leave....yup i'm a stubborn tw#t.
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Post by Pious the chosen » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:08 pm

Normally I don't like to address or read up on this anymore. What's done is done after all. However, some time ago there was a panorama type programme focusing on those areas that voted Leave, particularly in Northern England. I mean it's a bit rich for those others in the south west that voted Leave en masse to be bemoaning the loss of EU subsidies they were receiving :roll:

Anyway one woman in particular stuck with me. She expressed that this is the only time she felt like her vote mattered. That Government would have to listen to them now, those outside of London. Those that had realistically been left to fend for themselves as various manufacturing and mining businesses folded over the past few decades. Government would have to acknowledge the rest of the country now. Did they listen? Well the first thing everyone said in the wake of the vote was "protect London", "Make London a City State", "Show the World London is still open for business" etc etc Will Brexit (as much as I hate that term) see better distribution of businesses, jobs and employment throughout the whole country??

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Post by Blakey » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:05 am

Earlier than I'd hoped for, I still held an outside hope of the triggering of article 50 being delayed and delayed until the Brexiteers forgot about it, but I guess unfortunately it seemingly was never going to be that simple.

We're so fucked in March its unbelievable, I've no doubt that the rest of my life will be made exponentially more difficult by this one big stupid decision than anything else, the thought of having to pay out for a US-ESTA style Visa to visit anywhere in Europe in a few years time is just fucking heartbreaking, that and I'll have to jump through a ridiculous amount of hoops potentially if I want to work abroad.

It'll be funny to see Nissan pull out of the UK and leave all the factory workers who voted for Brexit in Sunderland and Swindon up shit creek with no paddle.

One day when my grand-kids are studying Brexit at school in the future I'll proudly say to them 'I wasn't part of the 52% that fucked the country up kids, you can't blame me, I was the Pro-European 48%'

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Imagine thinking A-levels are going to matter when my combat-trained daughters are slitting your throat for your last thimble of petrol
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