http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/750/750001p1.html
What was that about Sony ripping off Nintendo's ideas?
Nintendo Sued for Patent Infringement
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"The court filing claims that Interlink Electronics has suffered "loss of reasonable royalties, reduced sales and/or lost profits as a result of the infringing activities of" Nintendo."
eh.... perhaps if anyone had heard of their product in the first place.
eh.... perhaps if anyone had heard of their product in the first place.
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Sooner or later someone is going to have to address the issue with the Patents legislation.
It was originally designed to give inventors a measure of protection from having their ideas stolen and was intended to promote creativity.
Now there are companies that make a living simply filing patents and waiting for someone to infringe (a la Blackberry). Its now actually stifling creativity as so many patents are out there now that its almost impossible to avoid infringing something, somewhere.
The whole system is so badly abused its ridiculous. Surely there should be legislature that demands that a patent holder be actively marketing a competing product for the patent they hold for any claim against another company to be valid.
In this case, surely the patent holding company should also be going after any company manufacturing LightGuns and any other type of electronic pointing device that uses a trigger.
It was originally designed to give inventors a measure of protection from having their ideas stolen and was intended to promote creativity.
Now there are companies that make a living simply filing patents and waiting for someone to infringe (a la Blackberry). Its now actually stifling creativity as so many patents are out there now that its almost impossible to avoid infringing something, somewhere.
The whole system is so badly abused its ridiculous. Surely there should be legislature that demands that a patent holder be actively marketing a competing product for the patent they hold for any claim against another company to be valid.
In this case, surely the patent holding company should also be going after any company manufacturing LightGuns and any other type of electronic pointing device that uses a trigger.
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the wiimote has been seen for over a year now and yet this company only seem to think its infringing its patent when the wiis making lots of money.. hmm wonder why
if you look at the 2 products really there completely different, the mouse for example has no where near the motion sensor tech of the wiimote
just another case of someone trying to get money out of a big company
if you look at the 2 products really there completely different, the mouse for example has no where near the motion sensor tech of the wiimote
just another case of someone trying to get money out of a big company
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The difference between that and this current case is that the rumble technology had been designed and finished. What has happend with this Nintendo case is that a wide reaching vague patent has been produced in an effort to get a cut of profits. They probably dont even have a working prototype of their device they just wrote down something random and waited for somebody to fall into the trap.Izak wrote:Just money-grabbing company that want a piece of Nintendo's fortune.
Just like that weird company that no one had heard of that decided to sue Sony and Microsoft over their rumble feature.
This sueing lark has just gone too far.
I'm glad someones brave enough to take a step like this against nintendo and wish them every success.
Nintendo have only got themselves to blame for this, and for presuming everyone wants to use new particpation devices to play games. To me its only a matter of time until someone somewhere sues for them for the Wiimote 'having someones eye out'. (Lol)
Especially reading all the stories of all the 'gonk-oids' throwing them around their front rooms.
Nintendo have only got themselves to blame for this, and for presuming everyone wants to use new particpation devices to play games. To me its only a matter of time until someone somewhere sues for them for the Wiimote 'having someones eye out'. (Lol)
Especially reading all the stories of all the 'gonk-oids' throwing them around their front rooms.
I've been a fan of Nintendo for longer than I care to remember. I just don't feel the need to back them up in everything they do because they capable of mistakes just like everyone else. As I've seen it over the last 20 years or more its usually them who are doing the suing of others anyway.
I know of a few cases that Nintendo have started and lost and one that I remember recently when they tried to sue the old company director of 'Intelligent Systems' when he left to form 'Enterbrain' and he made a game exactly like a Nintendo property - 'Fire emblem'. Which was what he did while he was at Nintendo when in charge of Intelligent systems after Gunpei Yokoi died.
In the end he was ruled to have every right to use the FE engine for his own games. Hence a game called Tear Ring Saga on Ps1, but Nintendo got it wrong then, and were the ones doing the suing for copyright infingement. It didn't go in their favour that time, and I think it shows they are capable of mistakes just like Sony and Microsoft are too. Its just most of their court cases are in Japan, so we don't hear about them unlike sonys recent trial in international court.
The post I made was meant as some kind of joke (albeit not a very good one) against the fact that we live in a society that encourages all this suing, countersuing and political correctness gone wrong, not as a genuine argument anyway. I think Nintendo have been great for many years, and have alot of their games, but I haven't quite taken to their direction recently. No harm in that. I'm entitled to think what I like in this respect, but still think they can't get it right all the time, and nor would I expect them to.
I know of a few cases that Nintendo have started and lost and one that I remember recently when they tried to sue the old company director of 'Intelligent Systems' when he left to form 'Enterbrain' and he made a game exactly like a Nintendo property - 'Fire emblem'. Which was what he did while he was at Nintendo when in charge of Intelligent systems after Gunpei Yokoi died.
In the end he was ruled to have every right to use the FE engine for his own games. Hence a game called Tear Ring Saga on Ps1, but Nintendo got it wrong then, and were the ones doing the suing for copyright infingement. It didn't go in their favour that time, and I think it shows they are capable of mistakes just like Sony and Microsoft are too. Its just most of their court cases are in Japan, so we don't hear about them unlike sonys recent trial in international court.
The post I made was meant as some kind of joke (albeit not a very good one) against the fact that we live in a society that encourages all this suing, countersuing and political correctness gone wrong, not as a genuine argument anyway. I think Nintendo have been great for many years, and have alot of their games, but I haven't quite taken to their direction recently. No harm in that. I'm entitled to think what I like in this respect, but still think they can't get it right all the time, and nor would I expect them to.
I heard something a few years ago about some Nintendo lawyer finding that Nintendo may own the rights to the 'PlayStation' brand because Sony was making the 'PlayStation' CD system for the SNES before Nintendo backed out.
I heard Nintendo was going to take Sony to court and demand loyalties for the use of the name.
Whatever happened or was it just a load of nonsense someone made up?
I heard Nintendo was going to take Sony to court and demand loyalties for the use of the name.
Whatever happened or was it just a load of nonsense someone made up?
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i don't think that's the case. sony were working with Nintendo on a CD attachement for the SNES, when there was a disagreement and Sony decided to take it off themselves. it had always been a sony design though, as far as i can gather.Izak wrote:I heard something a few years ago about some Nintendo lawyer finding that Nintendo may own the rights to the 'PlayStation' brand because Sony was making the 'PlayStation' CD system for the SNES before Nintendo backed out.
I heard Nintendo was going to take Sony to court and demand loyalties for the use of the name.
Whatever happened or was it just a load of nonsense someone made up?
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Quoted from Wikipedia:toneeblair wrote: i don't think that's the case. sony were working with Nintendo on a CD attachement for the SNES, when there was a disagreement and Sony decided to take it off themselves. it had always been a sony design though, as far as i can gather.
Sound like Nintendo (unknowingly at the time) shot themselves right in the foot. If they had gone ahead with the SNES-CD, the Playstation may well have never existed!In 1989, the SNES-CD was to be announced at the June CES . However, when Hiroshi Yamauchi read the original 1988 contract between Sony and Nintendo, he realized that the earlier agreement essentially handed Sony complete control over any and all titles written on the SNESCD-ROM format. Yamauchi was furious; deeming the contract totally unacceptable, he secretly cancelled all plans for the joint Nintendo-Sony SNES CD attachment. Indeed, instead of announcing their partnership, at 9 am the day of the CES, Nintendo chairman Howard Lincoln stepped onto the stage and revealed that they were now allied with Philips, and were planning on abandoning all the previous work Nintendo and Sony had accomplished. Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa had (unbeknownst to Sony) flown to Philips headquarters in Europe and formed an alliance of a decidedly different nature—one that would give Nintendo total control over its licenses on Philips machines.
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Yeah, but sony in "complete control over any and all titles"?Izak wrote:Quoted from Wikipedia:toneeblair wrote: i don't think that's the case. sony were working with Nintendo on a CD attachement for the SNES, when there was a disagreement and Sony decided to take it off themselves. it had always been a sony design though, as far as i can gather.
Sound like Nintendo (unknowingly at the time) shot themselves right in the foot. If they had gone ahead with the SNES-CD, the Playstation may well have never existed!In 1989, the SNES-CD was to be announced at the June CES . However, when Hiroshi Yamauchi read the original 1988 contract between Sony and Nintendo, he realized that the earlier agreement essentially handed Sony complete control over any and all titles written on the SNESCD-ROM format. Yamauchi was furious; deeming the contract totally unacceptable, he secretly cancelled all plans for the joint Nintendo-Sony SNES CD attachment. Indeed, instead of announcing their partnership, at 9 am the day of the CES, Nintendo chairman Howard Lincoln stepped onto the stage and revealed that they were now allied with Philips, and were planning on abandoning all the previous work Nintendo and Sony had accomplished. Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa had (unbeknownst to Sony) flown to Philips headquarters in Europe and formed an alliance of a decidedly different nature—one that would give Nintendo total control over its licenses on Philips machines.
Coulden't have ended well.
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