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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:08 pm
by TheDeleted
drewski wrote: Evidence, statistics and pragmatism, it seems, is not good enough to placate those with a specific agenda.
I'm pinching that!

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:12 pm
by OnThinIce
drewski wrote:If you're not aware of these, here are some links to other publications that see fit to prove (without evidence) that Dr Byron was wrong.

The Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... rtComments

The Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 663097.ece

Daily Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main ... do3005.xml

And here is a link to a website where an unnamed tabloid newspaper is trying to find people who turned to a life of crime as a direct result of games:
http://www.starnow.co.uk/Magazines-news ... wanted.htm

Unfortunately, the Byron Review has just brought more attention to gaming and it has driven the tabloids into an apoplectic rage. Evidence, statistics and pragmatism, it seems, is not good enough to placate those with a specific agenda.
Some of the comments left by people are great
In France games and films don't have certificates, but advisory labels if they're violent. The difference? Parents here actually care about what their kids are playing and watching. They don't just throw them in front of the square babysitter and complain that their kids never talk to them or that they're violent.

Parents need to stop looking for excuses for bad behaviour and start looking in the mirror.

Your kid, your responsibility for the little brat... I mean angel!

- Judith, Paris, France

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:45 pm
by leeray666
Go back to your TV's people!!...




.... Aaaaaannnnd sleep.

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:03 pm
by merman
Nice summary in todays gamesindustry.biz newsletter... I particularly like their comment on The Times, who in 1816 told readers to keep their daughters away from the new terror sweeping Europe. The waltz.

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:30 pm
by ScotsWahey
Look around you, everyone is playing games now. The generation that grew up playing Mario and Sonic now have careers and families. They know games aren't bad, they know what is and isn't suitable for their children. The only people left complaining will be white middle class women with too much time on their hands.

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:03 am
by rumblecat
merman wrote:I particularly like their comment on The Times, who in 1816 told readers to keep their daughters away from the new terror sweeping Europe. The waltz.


That's great. :D :D

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:02 pm
by drewski
ScotsWahey wrote:The only people left complaining will be white middle class women with too much time on their hands.
I would normally point out that this is a gross generalisation. However, since they are making gross generalisations about games and gamers I will let it pass. :wink: