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OnThinIce wrote:Someone else will buy it for him

Chances are he could just walk into most Game stores and buy it anyway.

At least the whole cuffle is over really for now but for how long ya reckon? there will be other manhunt 2 situations, and i really think that this is only the start of it but we'll see

cant stand this nanny state tho, im pretty sure im old enough to make decisions on my own.

"Thanks for the warning, But I think i'll risk it"

there will be other manhunt 2 situations, and i really think that this is only the start of it but we'll see

Possibly not - this will hopefully be seen as a benchmark case, the BBFC have been burnt in the process and maybe games will be brought under less Draconian scrutiny in future.
If you think about what filmmakers are allowed to get away with now; Saw, Hostel and it's ilk would probably have been banned outright following the introduction of the Video Recordings Act back in 1984, but now gore-nography is a mainstream phenomenon, lifes one long slippery slope into depravity. At least I hope so. Christ some of the stuff you see in some 12A movies is a bit near the knuckle as far as language, drug use, sex, violence and all those other fun things.... and would've been at least an instant 15 rating back then.

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Satan's Therapist wrote:FINALLY COMMON SENSE PREVAILS

But this is really about the principle. If you are 18 you are legally classed as an adult and can make informed decisions based on the facts and not enginered bullshit.

THIS IS ONE IN THE EYE FOR THE IGNORANT MISINFORMED MORAL MAJORITY WHO WANT US TO LIVE BY THEIR RULES AND STANDARDS

Oh, come on. The BBFC examine everything they classify (or indeed refuse classification) in detail. Their opinion is informed. They have been overruled by the independent VAC; if anything, this shows that the system works.

Didn't I read in games TM's own pages that the BBFC only 'play' or see a select portion of the game, having developers send them a disk with a selection of the game's 'worst' content, because they don't have the time to see the whole thing?

Felix wrote:Didn't I read in games TM's own pages that the BBFC only 'play' or see a select portion of the game, having developers send them a disk with a selection of the game's 'worst' content, because they don't have the time to see the whole thing?

I remember reading something similar. Its a little like only watching the grisly parts of something like Irreversible and then deciding the movie's reprehensible, or only seeing the gore in Evil Dead and banning it without taking into account the overall tone. You can't really judge something without the context, so I do hope that's not true.

They're provided with video footage I know that much, but not sure just how much footage there is, I can hardly see them, say, sitting through a video of a 40 hour + RPG.

However, hopefully this Byron report will see to how things are classified in future, I do think all games need to carry a legal classification now days though, if only to try and prevent finger pointing from the media

Miss Marvellous wrote:

Chimp wrote:

Satan's Therapist wrote:FINALLY COMMON SENSE PREVAILS

But this is really about the principle. If you are 18 you are legally classed as an adult and can make informed decisions based on the facts and not enginered bullshit.

THIS IS ONE IN THE EYE FOR THE IGNORANT MISINFORMED MORAL MAJORITY WHO WANT US TO LIVE BY THEIR RULES AND STANDARDS

Oh, come on. The BBFC examine everything they classify (or indeed refuse classification) in detail. Their opinion is informed. They have been overruled by the independent VAC; if anything, this shows that the system works.

Not true with games they play though them with cheats not seeing them as a normal player would.

That's exactly why I said in detail; they are provided with cheats so they can progress through the game without the faff of energy bars etc. In order to rate the games without this they would all have to be expert games players with a lot of time on their hands. A degree of the process also relies on developer openness; this is the bit where the developer shows the BBFC the 'worst elements'.

I disagree. You don't get the challenge of the game, but you get a full appreciation of the content.

PRNelson wrote:

OnThinIce wrote:Someone else will buy it for him

Chances are he could just walk into most Game stores and buy it anyway.

Unless people listen to that stupid Byron review...

Ryan Payton of MGS stated in his podcast, that he had to create a video of the game(MGS4) being played all the way through from start to finish, making sure they used as much violent actions as possible for the ratings board submissions.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/29969/BBFC-to ... nt-madness

[quote]Manhunt 2 has finally been cleared for release – but its convoluted journey to retail has exposed the inherent problems with the current games classification system, say commentators.

now, ahead of Dr. Tanya Byron’s report on video game classification, the future of the BBFC as a viable option for games classification has been thrown into doubt.

“The grudging nature of the BBFC’s statement, that it now has “no alternativeâ€

Amen to that...

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http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915950p1.html

Rockstar has revealed to IGN that its oft-delayed Manhunt 2 is finally set to release on Wii, PS2 and PSP in the UK on October 31.

does anyone even care anymore?