have you seen the front page of today's Metro?toneeblair wrote:to be honest, i don't see the general media taking much notice... it would have attracted more attention if it was actually being released.
Manhunt 2 denied UK release!
It was all over Radio 1 yesterday - that's as mainstream as you can get.
And Thrill Kill wasn't banned, Virgin pulled it before it got that far. Then it was made into the Wu-Tang game.
I've got both of them and unless you really love the Wu-Tang or midgets on stilts, they're not that special.
And Thrill Kill wasn't banned, Virgin pulled it before it got that far. Then it was made into the Wu-Tang game.
I've got both of them and unless you really love the Wu-Tang or midgets on stilts, they're not that special.
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If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
I'm not making this personal, so all the stuff that follows is just in the spirit of debate... 
Of course you're allowed your opinion. But is it your opinion that no adult should be allowed to play this game because you don't personally agree with what the content might be?
Manhunt isn't going to be to anyone's taste, that's cool. Nobody has a problem with that. But there's a wider issue here, about the justification that a classification body makes (a classification body who sees fit to pass movies like SS Experiment Camp) for not allowing adults to choose for themselves. Whether it's one game or not isn't the point. The point is we don't get to choose for ourselves, someone has decided.
If the BBFC were to stand up and say "We're doing this to protect minors", then fine. We'd have a different debate on their hands. But they're not. They're saying they're doing it to protect adults. They're saying it would cause us harm.
As for the actual content of the game- as none of us have played it, it's a bit hard to see where the criticism comes from it. The one review I have read, from NGamer magazine, slapped a 92% on it and stated the gameplay was "Solid and compelling. The action ties in perfectly with the psychological horror of the story", and in summary "As dark a game as we've ever played, Manhunt 2 is a brilliantly constructed piece of fanservice for horror enthusiasts and a masterclass in stealthy nastiness."
Possily they're being kind because R* chucked them an exclusive. Maybe they're spot on. Either way, the good news is seven or so pages into this debate, no-one has mentioned Hitler or burning books...
And, yeah... that Wu Tang game was poor...
Well, either someone is deciding what game you can play, or they're not. First of all you say they aren't, then you say they are... so I'm not sure what you're saying there. If they give classification to a thousand games and refuse it for one, then they are deciding what you can play, aren't they?Smurph wrote: No-one is deciding what I can and can't play, they're banning ONE GAME. Its hardly totalitarian rule. And if this is the kind of game they decide I can't play, then, yeah, I'm bloody fine with it.
Of course you're allowed your opinion. But is it your opinion that no adult should be allowed to play this game because you don't personally agree with what the content might be?
Manhunt isn't going to be to anyone's taste, that's cool. Nobody has a problem with that. But there's a wider issue here, about the justification that a classification body makes (a classification body who sees fit to pass movies like SS Experiment Camp) for not allowing adults to choose for themselves. Whether it's one game or not isn't the point. The point is we don't get to choose for ourselves, someone has decided.
If the BBFC were to stand up and say "We're doing this to protect minors", then fine. We'd have a different debate on their hands. But they're not. They're saying they're doing it to protect adults. They're saying it would cause us harm.
As for the actual content of the game- as none of us have played it, it's a bit hard to see where the criticism comes from it. The one review I have read, from NGamer magazine, slapped a 92% on it and stated the gameplay was "Solid and compelling. The action ties in perfectly with the psychological horror of the story", and in summary "As dark a game as we've ever played, Manhunt 2 is a brilliantly constructed piece of fanservice for horror enthusiasts and a masterclass in stealthy nastiness."
Possily they're being kind because R* chucked them an exclusive. Maybe they're spot on. Either way, the good news is seven or so pages into this debate, no-one has mentioned Hitler or burning books...
And, yeah... that Wu Tang game was poor...
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I would never play Manhunt, even if offered a truckload of money. But I don't think those who would play it are demented psychos. Well, maybe a bit
That said, The Hitcher (previously mentioned) is one of my favourite films...
Not the pish remake though!
But if Manhunt 2 weren't banned, couldn't it be that games with more disturbing content would be plausible in a reversal of an "if this is banned, does the limit of what's deemed acceptable grow ever smaller?" argument?
That said, The Hitcher (previously mentioned) is one of my favourite films...
Not the pish remake though!
But if Manhunt 2 weren't banned, couldn't it be that games with more disturbing content would be plausible in a reversal of an "if this is banned, does the limit of what's deemed acceptable grow ever smaller?" argument?
Semantics. In the general scheme of things, there is no dictator telling me that I can't play this and that. Only one game, which I didn't think was in very good taste, has been banned. What I'm saying is, if this is all that censorship amounts to, then its fine by me.rumblecat wrote:Well, either someone is deciding what game you can play, or they're not. First of all you say they aren't, then you say they are... so I'm not sure what you're saying there. If they give classification to a thousand games and refuse it for one, then they are deciding what you can play, aren't they?Smurph wrote: No-one is deciding what I can and can't play, they're banning ONE GAME. Its hardly totalitarian rule. And if this is the kind of game they decide I can't play, then, yeah, I'm bloody fine with it.
I never specifically stated that my opinion is the right one, simply that because the ban coincides with my feelings, then I'm fine with it.rumblecat wrote:Of course you're allowed your opinion. But is it your opinion that no adult should be allowed to play this game because you don't personally agree with what the content might be?
Well, this is a very good point. It may turn out that the game has perfectly good justification for the style and amount of violence etc (however doubtful), I'm also basing my opinions on what I have read. Without playing it too, I'll not know. I do reckon that NGamer isn't the bible of games, however, so pinches of salt and all that.rumblecat wrote:As for the actual content of the game- as none of us have played it, it's a bit hard to see where the criticism comes from it. The one review I have read, from NGamer magazine, slapped a 92% on it and stated the gameplay was "Solid and compelling. The action ties in perfectly with the psychological horror of the story", and in summary "As dark a game as we've ever played, Manhunt 2 is a brilliantly constructed piece of fanservice for horror enthusiasts and a masterclass in stealthy nastiness."
Possily they're being kind because R* chucked them an exclusive. Maybe they're spot on. Either way, the good news is seven or so pages into this debate, no-one has mentioned Hitler or burning books...
And, yeah... that Wu Tang game was poor...
Yeah, I don't really trust over-enthusiastic exclusive reviews either.
I still think that on a basic level, banning a game for adults isn't a good way forward. Even if I didn't want to play Manhunt 2 or like the idea, I wouldn't suport a ban. But horses for courses and all that...
I still think that on a basic level, banning a game for adults isn't a good way forward. Even if I didn't want to play Manhunt 2 or like the idea, I wouldn't suport a ban. But horses for courses and all that...
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It was also on the front page of the METRO newspaper today.
'sadistic video game is banned by censors'
Was the front headline. It then went on to quote other parents that had lost their loved ones from murders, i'm not being funny but how can a fookin game have anything to do with these murders? It's the people that ar esick in the head who kill not the game, these people piss me off! They protest against a game because it is violent and their son got killed by a sick murderer, i can see why they hate violence but why hate on games, twats.
'sadistic video game is banned by censors'
Was the front headline. It then went on to quote other parents that had lost their loved ones from murders, i'm not being funny but how can a fookin game have anything to do with these murders? It's the people that ar esick in the head who kill not the game, these people piss me off! They protest against a game because it is violent and their son got killed by a sick murderer, i can see why they hate violence but why hate on games, twats.
they hate on games because they are stupid irresponsible parents who need to find some sort of reason for why their fucked up son made such a choice. They failed to mention that their son was let play manhunt at the age of six, or that they physically abused their child froma very young age(not that that would have anything to do with the actions of an individual)
From now on, Manhunt 2 shall only be spoken on these forums with the title of 'The game whose name we shall not speak' er.. 2
From now on, Manhunt 2 shall only be spoken on these forums with the title of 'The game whose name we shall not speak' er.. 2
I'm not the only one here who found the first 'The game whos name we shall not speak' boring as hell am i?
Not to change the topic drastically, but anyone see on the news last night, that other game that's been pulled because it uses CCTV footage from the Jamie Boulger abduction? I can't remember what the name of it is though.
Not to change the topic drastically, but anyone see on the news last night, that other game that's been pulled because it uses CCTV footage from the Jamie Boulger abduction? I can't remember what the name of it is though.
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NoZer0_One wrote:I'm not the only one here who found the first 'The game whos name we shall not speak' boring as hell am i?
'Law and Order: Double or Nothing'Zer0_One wrote:Not to change the topic drastically, but anyone see on the news last night, that other game that's been pulled because it uses CCTV footage from the Jamie Boulger abduction? I can't remember what the name of it is though.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 14,00.html
Which was released in 2003
Four years ago? And they're only just doing something about it now? Jesus.MikeHaggar wrote:'Law and Order: Double or Nothing'
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 14,00.html
Which was released in 2003
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